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Whoever gets into No 10 it will mean months and, if Brexit happens, years of arguing about Brexit and what is happening because of it. It will take years to get all the trade agreements sorted out. And every trade agreement will mean give and take so a bit of "our independence and sovereignty" will have to be on the table and given away. And with "America First" Trump it will be a fair bit of "our independence and sovereignty". And if you think having a Scottish Mother will make me look favourably on us well just remember he included Scotch Whisky in his tariff war with the EU. And that is because they dared to tax American companies that are refusing to pay their far share of tax in the EU by earning in one country but make it look as if almost all the profits were made elsewhere.kevinchess1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23 2019 9:58pmAs entertainins as BB amd Little M's willy waving competition is lets get back on topic
IN MY OPINION
I THInk it's a simple black/white yes/no 1/0 election.
Either Boris will get a majority and 'Get Brexit done' or he wont and Labour will cobble toghter enough support from other parties to form a government and Brexit won't get done for a bit
Who know what will happen in the 2nd option
I don't belive Jerry will give up the chance of being PM just because he;s against Nicky having ANOTHER 'Once-in-a-generatio' referendum
He promise thta in 2024 by which poit hell be in the House of Lords and won't care what happens
Equally I don't think Cousion Jo will give up her best hope of 'Bolloxing Brexit; by refusing to support Jeremy
So Vote for Boris and you get Brexit then 4.75 more years of him and his antics
OR
Vote for anyone else and we back on the carosel of 'Phuc-knows-what-goinna-happen-next'
Munches popcorn
kevinchess1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24 2019 9:09pmI like my elected govenment like I like my women
I take whatever I get
I like my elected govenment like I like my women
I take whatever I choose
I've searched high and low.... and your answer seems to have disappeared. I didn't ask you to give some personal opinion on issues of the past - I asked you why you don't think that Britain is capable of running successful nationalised industries like our European neighbours do.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24 2019 7:17pmHaving given you the answer to the question you asked I can only guess you didn't want to read it or have resorted to some form of twisted humour which is lost on me but I reply none the less to humour you...Chadwick wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24 2019 4:50pmIt would help if, from time to time, you could just give, or repeat, a clear answer to a question.
What you normally do is make a nonsense statement unsupported by any evidence, and when challenged you just try to filibuster until we give up. The concept of just answering the question seems to elude you.
You must have missed what I said: ...history has told us so, why would we want to repeat (what those of us old enough to have lived through) an unincentivized system ran by political will that ends up becoming a black hole for money and becomes a haven of bad service, most of all what benefit is derived from nationalisation and putting our grandchildren into incredible debt!?! Why you needed me to repeat that I will probably never know...macliam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26 2019 12:48amI've searched high and low.... and your answer seems to have disappeared. I didn't ask you to give some personal opinion on issues of the past - I asked you why you don't think that Britain is capable of running successful nationalised industries like our European neighbours do.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24 2019 7:17pmHaving given you the answer to the question you asked I can only guess you didn't want to read it or have resorted to some form of twisted humour which is lost on me but I reply none the less to humour you...Chadwick wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24 2019 4:50pm
It would help if, from time to time, you could just give, or repeat, a clear answer to a question.
What you normally do is make a nonsense statement unsupported by any evidence, and when challenged you just try to filibuster until we give up. The concept of just answering the question seems to elude you.
Simply because you still haven't answered the question I asked - what happened in the past is one thing, but I'm just interested as to why you don't believe your countrymen are as capable of running modern industries as well as are their continental cousins. (But, of course, that's the question you're trying desperately to avoid, neh? ).Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26 2019 1:02amYou must have missed what I said: ...history has told us so, why would we want to repeat (what those of us old enough to have lived through) an unincentivized system ran by political will that ends up becoming a black hole for money and becomes a haven of bad service, most of all what benefit is derived from nationalisation and putting our grandchildren into incredible debt!?! Why you needed me to repeat that I will probably never know...macliam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26 2019 12:48amI've searched high and low.... and your answer seems to have disappeared. I didn't ask you to give some personal opinion on issues of the past - I asked you why you don't think that Britain is capable of running successful nationalised industries like our European neighbours do.
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They also say, in subsequent interviews where this has been raised, (I have not checked) that this is more than made up by tax changes in other areas and that no one would lose out, also that the system as is, is unfair and unequal to those that are not married. If this claim by Labour is correct then your claim that "would lose £5 per week" is incorrect.expressman33 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27 2019 11:04amLabour’s manifesto commits to scrapping marriage allowance, a policy introduced in 2015 which gives a tax break to couples with a combined income of under £62,500. This means that a couple with just 1 at work and earning say £15,000 pa, or where one of the couple earn less than £12,500 pa ,would lose £5 per week . This will affect both young families and pensioners
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