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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by expressman33 » Thu May 21 2020 10:27am

China’s New Outbreak Shows Signs the Virus Could Be Changing
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by expressman33 » Thu May 21 2020 11:20am

Trump was being critisised early this week for using hydroxychloroquine. But now - "UK bulk buys hydroxychloroquine as potential Covid-19 treatment " - "Drug taken by Trump being acquired in case it proves effective against coronavirus " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... MQGbxGill8

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... e-11991901

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Sarah » Thu May 21 2020 11:42am

It seems doubtful that Trump is really taking it, unless it's an ineffective dose, but there are claims he has links to the manufacturer. So his relentless promotion of that drug comes as no surprise, neither does our useless govt being suckered into stockpiling it (if indeed they actually do, it's only an announced intention at this stage).

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Richard Frost » Thu May 21 2020 12:01pm

expressman33 wrote:
Thu May 21 2020 11:20am
Trump was being critisised early this week for using hydroxychloroquine. But now - "UK bulk buys hydroxychloroquine as potential Covid-19 treatment " - "Drug taken by Trump being acquired in case it proves effective against coronavirus " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... MQGbxGill8

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... e-11991901
it is currently being used in clinical trials to see if it has any effectiveness at all.
Studies are under way across the UK, Europe and the US to examine if the drug and a similar one, chloroquine, are effective against the coronavirus.

UK scientists have been examining whether the drug can be used to treat the disease, rather than prevent it. The UK does not at present recommend its use.
I find it a little surprising that they are attempting to buy in such large quantities. But perhaps they want to ensure that if the trials prove effective, then they have a large enough supply. An article from the Independent is here https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 25456.html Given the shortages of other things recently it is hardly surprising. It seems to me that whatever the government do would not be right. "Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't".
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Richard Frost » Thu May 21 2020 6:26pm

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Has Sweden’s coronavirus experiment failed?
Denmark, Finland and Norway are considering excluding Sweden when lifting travel restrictions for other countries, amid concerns about the neighbouring Nordic nation’s high coronavirus death rate.

Sweden has the highest mortality rate per capita at this stage of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the Financial Times’ seven-day tracker. It was the only Scandinavian country not to implement a national lockdown, instead opting to keep primary schools, restaurants and bars open, and even encouraging people to go outside.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by macliam » Thu May 21 2020 7:07pm

Richard Frost wrote:
Thu May 21 2020 6:26pm
https://www.theweek.co.uk/107049/sweden ... newsletter
Has Sweden’s coronavirus experiment failed?
Denmark, Finland and Norway are considering excluding Sweden when lifting travel restrictions for other countries, amid concerns about the neighbouring Nordic nation’s high coronavirus death rate.

Sweden has the highest mortality rate per capita at this stage of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the Financial Times’ seven-day tracker. It was the only Scandinavian country not to implement a national lockdown, instead opting to keep primary schools, restaurants and bars open, and even encouraging people to go outside.
I pointed this out to people lauding Sweden's "alternative" approach.

The differences are stark - Sweden has a mortality of 384/1m, whereas the closest that any neighbour comes is Denmark with 97/1m. Norway (43/1m) and Finland (55/1m) are far lower. This from a group of countries normally seen to have similar social and economic factors.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Boro Boy » Sun May 24 2020 1:00pm

I wonder if Cummings will last the weekend...?

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by macliam » Sun May 24 2020 2:03pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Sun May 24 2020 1:00pm
I wonder if Cummings will last the weekend...?
He may..... but should he?

If he remains in place, the lockdown is dead. Why should anyone else do as they are advised, if Cummings can make up the rules as he goes along? For this to happen just before the Bank Holiday will make it even more difficult to stop the mindless driving off to the coast for a jolly.
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